Muhammad Hugirat in Dialogue
I find it amazing to feel a strong connection with a man that I
hear on a radio interview for the first time. I have never heard of this
man before, but what I found out in this one hour conversation with Muhammad
Hugirat confirmed my gut feeling that there is a very common humanity in all of
us.
Professor Hugirat is the deputy head of the Arab Academic College for Science Education in Haifa, Israel. He is a Bedouin Israeli from the Village of Bir al-Maksur.
The interviewer is Kobi Barkai on a late night radio program named "Hidabrut" a Dialogue.
Professor Hugirat is the deputy head of the Arab Academic College for Science Education in Haifa, Israel. He is a Bedouin Israeli from the Village of Bir al-Maksur.
The interviewer is Kobi Barkai on a late night radio program named "Hidabrut" a Dialogue.
Professor Hugirat's message is: "Keep the framework of old traditions
but build a new world where we are all together contributing. We cannot
live in our imagination. We have to be part of the wide world and go
forward."
There
are 9,000 citizens in Bir al-Maksur village. All are Bedouins from the
Hugirat tribe.
Muhammad started his life in a family of shepherds with 14 siblings. His
parents were illiterate but they taught him the morality of being a
shepherd. Unlike his poor father, his mother was the daughter of the
Muchtar, the head of the tribe. They fell in love and despite the
difficulties they got married. They were known as the great love story of
the village. He has 5 brothers older than him and 6 younger
brothers. They all built good lives for themselves.
Muhammad
thanks Kobi for the interview. This is the first time he is speaking on the
Israeli Hebrew media.
Kobi comments that it is known that good leaders start their lives as shepherds. He asks: What does a shepherd learn from his flock?
Muhammad tells Kobi about the early members of his tribe, a charismatic father
and his two sons, who arrived in Israel from Syria via Jordan. They saw
this beautiful place and in the summer they took their flock to the well.
The sheep ran through the
fence and broke it, so they called the place broken well, and that is the
origin of the name Bir al-Maksur.
Kobi asks: How does a shepherd get educated in Bir al-Maksur?
Muhamad says his is an interesting story. As a curious boy he was attracted to listen to the elders in the tribe. The old men used to meet in a place called Divan. He used to sit outside by the door and follow their conversations. He watched TV for the first time in 1976 when electricity was installed in the village. He did not see the sea until the end of his freshman year in University. There were no books in their home. The school teacher was their only source of information. When he saw the school library he was amazed at the amount of knowledge those books contained. When he finished elementary school his father said "You have studied enough. Time for you to watch the sheep." His math teacher came to the house and talked to his father. It was difficult but she convinced him that Muhammad should go on with his studies. He loves her dearly to this day. She lectures at his college. He stands up every time she enters the room and he waits until she is seated. He finished high school at the top of his class.
His father expected him to marry and have 12 children. It was his mother who gave him money and encouraged him to run away from home and go to the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. At first he had a difficult time. He had a professor of Physical Chemistry who encouraged and supported him: Haim Lebanon. He loves him as a human being. He trained in the field of ESR Electron Spin Resonance. He was sent to Fry University in Berlin where he developed the method and excelled at it. He has many articles and books about it. But he realized that he is really an educator and a writer and he preferred to practice Science Education and deal with human beings rather than with electrons. He also wished to write of his experiences and he wrote a series of 4 short stories. He received an award for these stories from the Education Department. He also wrote 20 children's stories. He writes in Arabic and only one story was translated to Hebrew. Kobi tells him to hurry and get the other stories translated.
Kobi comments that it is known that good leaders start their lives as shepherds. He asks: What does a shepherd learn from his flock?
Muhamad answers that he often ponders about his life as a shepherd in a two
hour meditation in a dark room: A flock of sheep is a responsibility. If
a sheep gets lost it is a great financial burden. Dealing with animals
teaches you about humanity: you have to treat a sick sheep or one bitten by a
snake. You need to take care of them. In emergencies like that your
personality erupts! You are never a lone shepherd. There are other
flocks all around and you need to respect the boundaries of each one.
"If you ask me today am I a leader? I say yes, not necessarily
politically. I tell the people in my village: We need to contribute to
the society. I say in the Arab media: We should have a speech about
needs. We shouldn't have the National speech.”
(When he is using the
word speech he really means dialogue, or conversation. I translated
literally, however he means to say: This is the issue, this is what we need to
talk about: What are our needs? If we talk about the Nationality
then we are missing the point. This issue is very essential and
universal: What is the point of borders? We are all one humanity
with the same needs. We should put our minds and creativity to solve
common problems, rather than focus on history and old traditions.)
Kobi asks: How does a shepherd get educated in Bir al-Maksur?
Muhamad says his is an interesting story. As a curious boy he was attracted to listen to the elders in the tribe. The old men used to meet in a place called Divan. He used to sit outside by the door and follow their conversations. He watched TV for the first time in 1976 when electricity was installed in the village. He did not see the sea until the end of his freshman year in University. There were no books in their home. The school teacher was their only source of information. When he saw the school library he was amazed at the amount of knowledge those books contained. When he finished elementary school his father said "You have studied enough. Time for you to watch the sheep." His math teacher came to the house and talked to his father. It was difficult but she convinced him that Muhammad should go on with his studies. He loves her dearly to this day. She lectures at his college. He stands up every time she enters the room and he waits until she is seated. He finished high school at the top of his class.
His father expected him to marry and have 12 children. It was his mother who gave him money and encouraged him to run away from home and go to the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. At first he had a difficult time. He had a professor of Physical Chemistry who encouraged and supported him: Haim Lebanon. He loves him as a human being. He trained in the field of ESR Electron Spin Resonance. He was sent to Fry University in Berlin where he developed the method and excelled at it. He has many articles and books about it. But he realized that he is really an educator and a writer and he preferred to practice Science Education and deal with human beings rather than with electrons. He also wished to write of his experiences and he wrote a series of 4 short stories. He received an award for these stories from the Education Department. He also wrote 20 children's stories. He writes in Arabic and only one story was translated to Hebrew. Kobi tells him to hurry and get the other stories translated.
Muhammad supports equality and liberty for women. His wife had no college
education when they got married. He supported her going to school and
completing her education. She now runs a nursery school. He brags
about their 4 children and their accomplishments.
Kobi
asks if their tradition is tribal. What is the tribal tradition, the
music, literature, food?
(What is tradition? In the past each tribe was uniform in their way of life, meaning they spoke the same language, ate the same foods, prayed in the same manner, and played the same music. According to Muhammad in this tribe the previous generation was illiterate, but the current generation all had the opportunity to go to school. So the point here is that with more people getting higher education, with the new technologies of smart phones and information available to all, more of the old traditions merge. This is really a major development as many people (everywhere in the world) prefer to stick to their old traditions.)
Muhammad's answer is that now all Bedouins have the same tradition. But his message is that today the whole tribe structure is disintegrating and shattering. Muhammad himself does not believe in the idea of the tribe any more. "I am a man of the large world! I cannot exist within boundaries. My contribution is to the Israeli society first and then to the wide world."
He says what happens in the whole Arab world also affects the Bedouins. He believes they should keep the beautiful sides of nostalgia and tradition but should be in the large world contribute to it and receive from it. He repeats this again and again "Keep the framework but build a new world where we are all together contributing. Sometimes I sit with my children and tell them stories but they go to their computers and smart phones." We have to go forward.
I can see myself saying the same words, expressing the same ideas if anyone cared to interview me!
(What is tradition? In the past each tribe was uniform in their way of life, meaning they spoke the same language, ate the same foods, prayed in the same manner, and played the same music. According to Muhammad in this tribe the previous generation was illiterate, but the current generation all had the opportunity to go to school. So the point here is that with more people getting higher education, with the new technologies of smart phones and information available to all, more of the old traditions merge. This is really a major development as many people (everywhere in the world) prefer to stick to their old traditions.)
Muhammad's answer is that now all Bedouins have the same tradition. But his message is that today the whole tribe structure is disintegrating and shattering. Muhammad himself does not believe in the idea of the tribe any more. "I am a man of the large world! I cannot exist within boundaries. My contribution is to the Israeli society first and then to the wide world."
He says what happens in the whole Arab world also affects the Bedouins. He believes they should keep the beautiful sides of nostalgia and tradition but should be in the large world contribute to it and receive from it. He repeats this again and again "Keep the framework but build a new world where we are all together contributing. Sometimes I sit with my children and tell them stories but they go to their computers and smart phones." We have to go forward.
I can see myself saying the same words, expressing the same ideas if anyone cared to interview me!
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